By the time we reach the 1600s the non roman Europeans have been assimilated into a romanic style world where most are commonly white (although this seemed to exclude the irish who were treated very badly and if they werent forced into servitude died of starvation or spent their lives as serfs). Many families, however, integrated into Gaelic society and changed their Norman name to Gaelic and then Anglo equivalents: the Powers, the Fitzpatricks, Fitzgeralds, Devereux, Redmonds. The Table shown here gives a listing of the 100 most commonly names found in Ireland and their meanings. None of this was forced, as that would have hurt productivity, rather than helped, and the incentive of a female slave having reduced work during pregnancy encouragement enough. From a real Irish person, who didnt get shipped over to America but whos ancestors have fought against the oppression of Britannia and ultimately Rome (the Pope) for over 800years. Such things only serve to bring further division among human beings. Sons James Catholic bishop of Pirtland Maine Patrick Jesuit priest who made Georgetown University. Other theories suggest that the term Black Irish results from Irish immigrants. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. No.. this is skipped when you learn about politics and English/Irish relationships (IRA was very active at that time), but actually more understandable if only 100yrs before centuries of abuse were stopped.. But nowadays American people ( so called african americans and redneck irish) are all dumbed down, thats why you are fighting to be the worst treated slaves. Posting this post is perpetuating the ideology of white supremacy. Its my understanding that there are still people enslaved, although it is done secretly, and/or the laws are manipulated to accommodate itbut its still happening, yet today. I do so only under protest. Read it again. The name Cullen is best known from the fictional family of the Twilight book and film series. Indentured servitude was a colonial innovation that enabled many to emigrate to the New World while providing a cheap and white labour force for planters and merchants to exploit. Anyone using liam hogan as a source, whom is the only one, literally the only one trying to debunk irish slavery besides the hundreds of thousands of African americans (which is why irish come off as racist Imagine irish saying African slavery never happened, when you know 100 percent it did happen??). I have about 3 lines of my family in which this happened.. The slave trade was/is not a race issue, its a humanitarian one. In fact, ODubhghaill is the Gaelic version of the very popular Irish surname ODoyle. At least they were able to join the white establishment due to their color. Oh, and by the way, my Irish ancestors fought for the North at Gettysburg, for three hundred dollars and a ticket out of Ireland. Ill take everything you have, thank you! It became a first name in the nineteenth century, and was used in Ireland to anglicise Duald, Dubhdaleithe (black man of the two sides), and Dubhdara. There are absolutely no records of this crap, only modern lore that is bandied about as long lost truths. There is a prevailing debate amongst the commentators that leaves me with strong feelings of indignation. The Irish landowners where Protestant and therefore considered British. Sad! the ira was formed so we could have more rights. It was not until the late 18th century that physical traits alone was being shopped around as an identifier of race, and much later till that idea would even flirt with the consciousness of the mainstream. The Irish were brought over as indentured servants. And i agree. Oliver Cromwell lived in Henry Tudors time around 1536 when Anne Boleyn was beheaded. Think about this; slavery is a serious business and slaves are property like cattle, horses, sheep etc. Black Name Meaning English and Scottish: chiefly from Middle English blak (e) 'black' (Old English blc blaca) a nickname given from the earliest times to a swarthy or dark-haired man. http://theirishwereslavestoo.tumblr.com/post/120600939730/debunked-the-global-research-article-on-irish, Maybe those books can help youtheres many more, this is not something made up by one person on one website. Rarely youll find them listed by age, gender and a first name NEVER A LAST NAME. Perhaps this is were we can find common ground and open the conversation of race relations. Thanks for your research. This article attempts to make little of the term, indentured servitude, but the term has legal and Biblical definitions that give it limitations. and then share it for the world to see. The truth is African-American is not your true nationality. Well than do research and prove yourself right instead of arguing out of not knowing. But there are many others who have suffered under slavery, the Irish as you mentioned here, also the Scottish, Jews (black, German, French..). Omg. Although they did suffer as the Africans, they were also afforded certain privileges not afforded to African slaves. if you go to a protestant area in belfast they are putting polish and africans out of the area. In fact, you could make the argument the latter point is a bigoted racist statement. THE MYTH OF IRISH SLAVERY is A LIE The tale of the Irish slaves is rooted in a false conflation of indentured servitude and chattel slavery. Lets not forget the Red vs White; Yellow vs White; and Brown vs White. The mass exodus from Ireland has been a result of famine, war, and conflict throughout Irelands history. Often, female Blacks slaves were impregnated by their masters to create more slaves. Instead of having to round up the rebellious and often unreliable Irish, the African trade was already packaged and ready for sale. Visit The Information about Irelandsite to read more about Irish history, culture, and heritage. Presbyterian freeholders? 3. Why do we continue to ignore the pain of others? So stupid its almost funny, but instead its depressing cuz its so ignorant and shows how gullible these liberal assholes are, just looking for someone elses cause to bear cuz they gotta help those poor, downtrodden folks recover their true histories, and file a lawsuit against the government so they can assimilate into modern society and buy organic and get a job in IT or in the arts or a good non-profit..fuck you. And when the draft riots kicked off in New York city a lot of those Irish and Italians turned their hatred and attention on the African Americans!!! So I picked up those big fat ugly crayons .. Thats the type of history that should be taught in schools. Enjoy! Famous OConnors include singer Sinad OConnor, novelist Flannery OConnor, and retired United States Associate Justice of the Supreme Court Sandra Day OConnor. Simply put, they could blend in and have a life. Blacks could not blend in to normal society because most Blacks where slaves and most were not educated and they were not accepted in major segments of the country as entirely human. Yet, as a subject of historical discussion, it is almost never referred to in Ireland. Blacks who have Irish last names got them from their IRISH slave owners. This article is not stretching the truth, it is flat-out lying to you. It is claimed that the Spanish married into Irish society and created a new class of Irish who were immediately recognizable by their dark hair and complexion. Even to this day many still believe that Irish slavery only affected a few thousands. In contrast, however, at this same period in history, predominately, the Portuguese and Spanish were colonizing and enslaving the indigenous population of the South America continent. Yes, the Irish were treated horribly by the English, but they were not sold as slaves, per se, to the West Indies. Famous people with the surname Lynch are actresses Jane Lynch and Evanna Lynch, as well as actor Ross Lynch. Riddle me this, if a irish woman is bred with an african man, would the child not take the last name of the MAN?! slavery is not in the past. Here is an article written by 3 people: Liam Hogan, an independent scholar and librarian, Laura McAtackney, an associate professor in sustainable heritage management (archaeology) at rhus University, Denmark, and Matthew Connor Reilly, a postdoctoral fellow in archaeology and the ancient world at Brown University. Blog where a high school dropout or even a liam hogan can go and change irish slavery to irish indentured servitude on a daily basis lolto those who used him as your source grow up!!!!!! Modern examples of Irish/African being Barack Obama, Muhammad Ali, Dr Martin Luther King, Dr Henry Louis Gates, Colin Powell etc Even in modern times the two groups live in a lot of the same places, vote the same way politically, and both historically have been devalued unfairly by the Romanized world. Last name: Duffy. Irish family names can tell stories, too. However, Ireland considers itself a dual speaking country, so visitors can expect to see both English and Irish on public service signs and announcements. Everyone knows a mulatto slave is more than a pure irish slave or pure African slave!!!!!! Id gladly accept a Cajun than a damn IRISH redneck!!!!!!! Black Irish tend to be from the West Coast and North West Ireland which is where the trading went on. There is a very large difference between the two terms and are often conflated. Ever wonder why those hillbillies talk funny? Famous Fitzgeralds include singer Ella Fitzgerald and writer F. Scott Fizgerald. Was that what drove the slave trade in the last millenia? Reblogged this on Simply Etta D. and commented: Her first husband was White and her second husband was Black. My family history is very interesting..anyway they cant sweep all this under the rug anymore thanks to documents of proof which are online for the world to see now!! This then started a huge trade as the US opened up as a new world demanding labour. John Barry, who composed the scores for 11 James Bond films is one of the most famous people with the name Barry. More White Supremacist bullshit there were no white slaves, the Irish and Scots were originally black people, they descend from black Hebrew Israelites called the Iber (Heber or Eber, vowels are interchangeable and are the same people who travelled to Africa and called themselves the Ibo or Igbo). The large wave of Irish immigrants to the US in the 19th century has no direct lineage with the Barbados group, were granted the status of whiteness very early, and were actively involved in violent attacks on Blacks, Asians and other ethnic groups competing for jobs. Doyle Irish. Irish last names you may recognise from around the world are Murphy ( Murchadha in Gaelic) and Walsh (Breathnach in Gaelic). Many Irish were American slaveholders, some had even once been indentured servants at one time and after serving their indentured term went on to own a slave or two or several. However, there have been many others who suffered in slavery. And there, my friends, you have the truth of the matter. Maybe in a generalized way, but can never say for each individual. Think about their rage The fighting irish especially 100 years ago you wouldnt have not one Irishman admitting they were ever slaves ( they would talk about it amongst themselves, but never with outsiders whom werent real irish.
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